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Hello Calmypal, welcome to Wikipedia. Here are some useful links in case you haven't already found them;

If you have any questions, see the help pages, add a question to the village pump or ask me on my talk page. I hope you enjoy editing here and being a Wikipedian!

Angela 03:35, Nov 6, 2003 (UTC)

Hi Cal :) Usually we only link once to another article, and we leave further occurances of the term unlinked. The Guinness book was linked once up the top, so doesn't need to be linked again.

Thanks Dysprosia 03:16, 8 Nov 2003 (UTC)

It may seem rather ironic but I have just deleted Inclusionist. This sort of thing should only be on Meta as it is not helping Wikipedia in any way. The Wikipedia:Wikipedians by inclusionism/deletionism should also be on Meta, and has been deleted by someone else. Although there are some similar pages that exist here, the plan is to move all of these to Meta as well. I think you'll find the m:Inclusionism already has a list like this anyway, so do feel to contribute over there instead. Angela 20:47, Nov 8, 2003 (UTC)

I think you may slightly confused about the namespaces we use here as you want to have your inclusionist article in the main namespace. This is the area for the encyclopedia proper. The Wikipedia-namespace (prefix Wikipedia:) contains info about Wikipedia: how to use it, etc. See Wikipedia:Namespace for further explanation. Pages that contain information on user's affiliation to notions such as inclusionism play no part in an encyclopedia, which is what this is, so have no place on this site. I have responded to your other comments by e-mail. Angela 22:39, Nov 8, 2003 (UTC)

Calmypal, would you please stop adding articles with obviously totally irrelevant content like Joe Ahmed and Wikipedia:Wikipedians by Facial Hair? You may wish to consider what Wikipedia is not; also, you may have read this and this. If I remember correctly, there has already been some debate about your tendency to ridicule people as exemplified by creating Engime's Theory of Pure Absurdity that pretended to be an article but was in fact just an attack on so-called deletionists. So please stop it, this attitude will certainly not gain you much support here.Kosebamse 20:22, 13 Nov 2003 (UTC)

That was not an attack on deletionists. Give me another example where that theory could be supported, and I'll admit that I should have thought of that and used it instead. Anyway, I want to know what Wikipedians have what facial hair! - Arthur George Carrick 19:20, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

More about that article of yours at my talk page. I would like to note that it has been considered trolling by the sysop who deleted it, but that's past - I don't want to argue about what you did in the past, just wish to tell you that Wikipedia wants your knowledge, not your provocations. Kosebamse 19:31, 14 Nov 2003 (UTC)

I retract all above statements. I was a stupid angry confused newbie. - Woodrow 23:37, 25 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Please come vote! Jack 10:57, 29 Jan 2004 (UTC)

Please add something other than a massive list of primes to the list of prime numbers article, like some of the interesting history of their derivations to go with the simple facts. Jamesday

Hi, Dubya was already listed on Wikipedia:Redirects for deletion last week and the decision was to keep it. Angela. 04:27, Feb 1, 2004 (UTC)

HI PEEPS! SUP? ( 23:12, 19 December 2006 (UTC))[reply]


Hey, thanks for creating the BBB page. Care to tackle any of the others? :) Anthony DiPierro 15:10, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Here's John Marshall Harlan... - Arthur George Carrick 23:55, 27 Feb 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for reverting my user page from vandalism! I appreciate the vigilance, and will try to watch out for yours in the future. Jwrosenzweig 00:26, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Another brief thank you for being the first person to notice my call for haiku and provide one. :-) I liked it. Have a good day, Jwrosenzweig 19:55, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)

The End[edit]

Thanks for the explanation about "The End." Didn't know it was used as an anchor. Fuzheado 23:49, 9 Mar 2004 (UTC)

When i noticed that you trashed my approach to the get-to-the-end problem on VfD within 7 minutes, i was concerned that you might construe my reference to "nonsense" as implying that it was i who trashed the end-of-file section.

In fact, i've twice noticed it gone, but have never removed it.

The nonsense i removed was an instruction to use the End key to get to the end of the page; i don't know whether that was put there by someone who also removed the heading, or who found the heading already gone.

I consider jumping to the heading hopeless bcz i don't see any evidence that you're going to get people to stop deleteing the heading, whether it's happening intentionally or accidentally. On reflection, "nonsense" may be a little strong (for either way of going to the end-of-page, since the end of the page is almost always going to be within sight of the last nomination), but i still think you'll need more than the "good luck" i can wish you, to make it work. [smile] --Jerzy(t) 08:26, 2004 Mar 12 (UTC)

The end key works, but from what you say it doesn't seem to work for you. It's much better to have something simple that works for everyone. Yes, the end has previously been removed by Fuzheado and Jwrosenzweig, and I can only assume that whoever made the jump to the bottom link put a heading there originally. Until the software contains a feature to include a link to jump to the bottom, this will have to do. - Wikipedia 20:40, 12 Mar 2004 (UTC)


You won first and second prizes in the wikilottery. Congrats! silsor 02:58, Mar 13, 2004 (UTC)

Yay! Though I do think it was a little unfair to the others for me to buy 5 tickets... - Wikipedia 03:03, 13 Mar 2004 (UTC)


Stop adding the presidents footer and answer why it is needed at MediaWiki talk:Uspresidents. --Jiang 00:18, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

If you continue adding without reaching consensus you will find your edits immediately reverted. Please stop trolling. --Jiang
How can I respect the judgment of someone who removes the comments of others from talk pages? - Woodrow 01:11, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

I hate to be a grump...[edit]

but I think signing things as Wikipedia may confuse new users. You know, they'll think you're in charge or you own it or something. :-) Anyway, I'm suggesting you find something else -- not a major issue, but I know people get confused (heck, one newbie thought Kingturtle was in charge in a dispute I was involved in....maybe "King" threw him?). Thanks! Jwrosenzweig 00:50, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, I didn't think of that. - 00:56, 19 Mar 2004 (UTC)


I noticed your name on your recent vote to delete Joke article. It caught my attention because Woodrow is my cat's name (we also have an Ike). Anyway then I had a look at your user page and saw you live in the Phila area. I live in Roxborough. See you -ike9898 02:06, Mar 20, 2004 (UTC)

Please stop adding the footer because it is a waste of time. I will revert it as long as you fail to convince us of its need and create a consensus to use it. --Jiang

As long as you can keep removing it, I can keep adding it. - Woodrow 22:05, 20 Mar 2004 (UTC)

re: Hey, Brian! With cases like ALFRED NOBEL, it's easier to just turn it into a redirect. We don't keep duplicate articles. You also might want to read up on speedy deletions. All the best, Woodrow 02:14, 31 Mar 2004 (UTC)

Thanks, Woodrow. I think I'll stay out of the VfD stuff, at least for awhile. I tend to take the hard way when there are easier paths. Brian Rock 02:28, Mar 31, 2004 (UTC)

Calmypal, what do you think about Cecropia's nominations for adminship? Get-back-world-respect 14:08, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

22nd Amendment[edit]

Hello Woodrow, Is the point you made on my Talk page that the 22nd Amendment would allow Clinton to serve again? I believe that, based on the history of the amendment, that would be a clear violation of the intent. Certainly it could only be definitively decided by the Supreme Court, and it would certainly go to the Supreme Court. But how do you feel about my other point that it could only damage a candidate to have a doubtfully legal Vice Presidential candidate? It would become a central issue in the campaign, no? Cheers! Cecropia 20:54, 1 Apr 2004 (UTC)

If you're editing my talk page, you're not banned. What Internet service provier do you use? Maximus Rex 01:11, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

I've unblocked that address. Sorry for any inconvenience. Maximus Rex 01:14, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Thanks for fixing the redirect here. I now know how to do it. Peter Ellis 01:23, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)


Thanks, Woodrow -- but why? :-) What in particular are you honoring? :-) I'm intrigued, flattered, and slightly embarrassed: thanks for brightening my morning! Jwrosenzweig 16:37, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Count me even more flattered, even more smiling, and much much more embarrassed. :-) Thanks for making me feel appreciated, and for wishing me well. I promise to keep eating food. :-) Jwrosenzweig 20:35, 2 Apr 2004 (UTC)

3/12=25%, no? Anyway, I was just coming to tell you your application is archived here should you wish to refer it. Good luck with any later applications you make. Angela. 17:47, Apr 4, 2004 (UTC)

Ah, good point. I generally take them into account in some way without actually counting them. Angela. 17:56, Apr 4, 2004 (UTC)

Honored Americans[edit]

Did you remember what you wrote on the Talk:George Washington page?? Do you know who ranks fourth?? Also, do you think that this "honored Americans" can be at its own Wikipedia article?? Please do not treat me like a coward. 22:21, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

But why do you think I chose 1945?? I chose it because that's when World War II ended, and this makes it an important border in United States history. What year would you have picked?? Anyone who sees the list at the bottom has the right to extend it, not just you. I believe that the one who ranks fourth is probably either Andrew Jackson or Abraham Lincoln, but I'm not really sure. 22:45, 4 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Hi Woodrow. I'm responding to your query on my Talk page.

I removed the statements that Aja contains "some of their longest songs ever", and that the first song is the title track, because I thought neither were particularly significant, especially in the first sentence. Every band has an album or two where they stretch out with long songs, and most albums have a title track.

The first item could be mentioned in a more detailed description, where Aja might be contrasted with other albums. The second should be apparent in a track list. I can take care of both.

Also, "Aja" is not the first track, it's the second. First up is my favorite, "Black Cow".

-- Paul Richter 01:15, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

When I made the changes I hastily deleted the bit on the namesake of "Aja". Did you mean that the album is named after an African tribe/language or African/Hindu mythology? It's not clear which one, and I find it highly doubtful that it's any of them.

The lyrics imply that "Aja" is just a variation of "Asia". I've never come across any claims to the contrary.

-- Paul Richter 05:12, 6 Apr 2004 (UTC)

If you have AIM: MarderIII or Yahoo: wikilir -- we can play on Yahoo! chess sometime -- Im a 1600+. I also play on FICS some. Lirath Q. Pynnor

Please stop supporting User:Exploding Boy for adminship. He makes innapropriate articles like <Link deleted> and <Link deleted>. Radical WiKi 13:22, 7 Apr 2004 (UTC)

your current signature[edit]

I find your current signature confusing. First, I didn't realize who it was from. Then when I tried to reply to you, I got a random page, and then your user page. Please consider making your signature the standard signature. It will better enhance communication. Thanks, Kingturtle 19:31, 9 Apr 2004 (UTC)


Hi, I've started a discussion on which syntax(es) should be implemented for table-based chessboards. Your opinion is invited. Thanks. Arvindn 14:57, 10 Apr 2004 (UTC)


Thanks for your support, Calmypal. Hope you'll do better the next time you come around on the vote. I think you will! Cecropia 03:36, 14 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Is there a good reason for you to be modifying User:I am sexy's user page? - Fennec 01:13, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

This should be brought up with me at my talk page. Feel free to revert it, it's mistranslated anyway, despite my best efforts. - Woodrow, Emperor of the United States 01:26, 13 Apr 2004 (UTC)

AMA co-ordinator election is now on[edit]

You may now vote for user:Ed_Poor or user:Alex756 in the first ever AMA co-ordinator election. Follow the instructions on Wikipedia:AMA Coordinator Election Procedure for more details.

AMA members who wish to abstain from voting must also e-mail wikipedia_ama_voting@yahoo.co.uk with notice of that intent.

To clarify anything before voting, ask user_talk:Zanimum or user_talk:Jwrosenzweig on their talk pages.

AMA members have until April 30, at 11:00:00 EST to vote. -- user:zanimum

Your vote has been counted. Jwrosenzweig 15:49, 20 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Apologies. I'll watch out for that one. Meelar 05:38, 17 Apr 2004 (UTC)

Sig and Chess[edit]

Did you notice I cut my chess page? I felt I had to, due to the debate, and trying to compel with the new guidelines.

I've done this before, and I just would like to ask you to shorten your sig, because they are so confusing and take up a lot of space, saying nothing... ✏ Sverdrup 21:41, 19 Apr 2004 (UTC)

VfU listing[edit]

What did you hope to accomplish through your recent listing on VFU? UninvitedCompany

I thought it should be kept for BJAODN. That's BJAODN's purpose...isn't it? - Woodrow XXIIIII, Emperor of the United States, Minister of Ministry 00:19, 1 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

In response to the edit made to the HHG page, I offer you this: "The title The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy is often abbreviated as "HHG", "HHGG", "HHGTTG" or "H2G2". " from the HHG/HHGG page. :)

So should the HHG thing be put back in?

--Krupo 08:30, 1 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

2 g's? - Herbert 00:18, 15 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you![edit]

Thank you for putting White whale back into a re-direct to Beluga. If the user who vandalizes by putting nonsensical information on this article comes back, please block (I don't know the gender of this user, so I don't know what pronoun to use.) 23:52, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Uh oh![edit]

The user who vandalizes White whale is back! Please do whatever you can to stop this from happening! 23:57, 7 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

True or false??[edit]

True or false: you know of a way to modify the Talk:George Washington page so that the "Honored Americans" section can be updated more often. 19:57, 12 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Unfortunately, false. How often it is updated depends on whether people make that happen. By the way, have you considered getting an account? - Herbert 00:17, 15 May 2004 (UTC)[reply]

Thank you![edit]

Thank you for updating the "Honored Americans" in Talk:George Washington. But, what is your "This is a separate project" supposed to mean?? The reason I put it at Talk:George Washington is because George Washington is the #1, and putting it at a talk page for a different person can certainly be artificial. For any more updates, remember the rule: there is no limit as long as you are including Americans whose entire life was within the range from 1706 to 1945. 14:07, 9 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Herbert Hoover[edit]

Please note that Herbert Hoover was alive as late as 1964 and the rule for honor ranks says that we are to include Americans who lived entirely between 1706 and 1945. What did you originally think?? 16:58, 12 Jun 2004 (UTC)

Honored Americans Project[edit]

Don't forget about the Honored Americans project at Talk:George Washington. I added 2 more Americans to it and each one had exactly 2 honors. Any more you can think of for either of them, or for Alexander Hamilton, who also currently has exactly 2 honors. 00:34, 3 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Edit attribution[edit]

Hi. Your request for edit reattribution was rejected. Please see Wikipedia:Changing attribution for an edit/Rejected requests. Regards Kate Turner | Talk 04:07, 2004 Sep 5 (UTC)

I actually forgot about that. - Calmypal 02:39, Sep 6, 2004 (UTC)

Fahrenheit 9/11[edit]

You do realise that TRON Guy hadn't even seen the movie right?

  • Audience Member: You think you're going to go see this?
  • Tron Guy: I haven't decided yet.
  • Audience Member: Why?
  • Tron Guy: Uh, because I think... I don't think a whole lot of Michael Moore... I don't think he has much in the way of integrity.

AlistairMcMillan 15:15, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Hey, I just saw the movie yesterday on the internet, and it was basically what I expected from reviews. I only really saw it because one of my liberal friends two lines is "Watch Fahrenheit 9/11!" (the other being variations of "Bush is a moron!"). I believe the criticisms give one a very good idea of the film's content. - Calmypal 15:20, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)
I'm not sure what you are saying here. You seriously think we should include quotes from people critiquing films that they haven't actually seen? AlistairMcMillan 16:19, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Technically, it was a critique of Michael Moore. ;-) - Calmypal 16:30, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)
Frankly if the only critique you can find of Michael Moore comes from TRON Guy, then Moore can't be doing too badly. I've watched that clip a bunch of times and still can't work out what his Fahrenheit 9/11 complaint is all about. Moore asked a US Representative a question? Oh My God, how is Moore allowed to walk the streets after behaviour like that? How can he even show his face in public? Don't you people have laws against that kind of stuff? AlistairMcMillan 17:08, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
Excuse me, don't we have a bunch of links at the bottom of the page? We have more than enough to use when we criticise the DF. Seriously, do you think this man would put a positive response from a Congressman in his film? The man outright lies! He edited over a reply from one Congresman to make it look worse, as I recall. Ever hear of Charlton Heston and Detroit? That's hard to defend... - Calmypal 19:29, Sep 8, 2004 (UTC)
I wasn't talking about everyone elses additions to the page. I was talking about yours. You added the TRON Guy quote and that was the only quote you added. My opinion on anything else is as irrelevant as yours. If you are going to add to the Fahrenheit 9/11 page please try to stay NPOV. If you are going to include people's quotes on the film it might be useful if have (a) seen the film and (b) have a little more credibility than Kermit the Frog. AlistairMcMillan 20:28, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)
I see you found someone with a "little" more credibility than Kermit. You wouldn't happen to have a source for that quote would you? I looked around but couldn't find it anywhere. AlistairMcMillan 19:19, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)
'Twas on the show today. - Calmypal 19:28, Sep 9, 2004 (UTC)

Are you just taking the piss now?

  • CALLER: But you call him a liar and a propagandist and you don't back up your -- where are your facts to prove that he is that?
  • RUSH: I don't know how many times I have done this. Let's start out --
  • CALLER: Is it on your website?
  • RUSH: Let's go ahead, finish your thought.
  • CALLER: If you've got the facts, post them on your website. I'd love to see it.
  • RUSH: All right.
  • CALLER: Let me just say -- this is my argument, because I listen to you all the time --
  • RUSH: It takes about as long as the movie to refute it because everything in it is a lie and --
  • CALLER: That's not true. That is not true. He's gotta book coming out that's going to cite his sources, and he also -- you made a point yesterday about listening to our soldiers, and if our soldiers say something, well, maybe we should pay attention. He's got a book coming out that has thousands -- I won't say thousands, but hundreds of letters from soldiers. Are you going to refute these letters from these soldiers that have written to Michael Moore over these years?
  • RUSH: Let me ask you this, what is the point of Moore's movie? What can you take away from it?
  • CALLER: The point is I think there's a lot of weird red flags that were raised that need to be looked at and not just swept under the carpet. And if you cannot -- have you watched -- let me ask you, have you actually seen the movie?
  • RUSH: No, no, I haven't seen the movie.

From the transcript on his own site. [1]

AlistairMcMillan 22:28, 9 Sep 2004 (UTC)

  • CALLER: See, Rush, that's what drives us crazy is how can you take -- you've got to watch it first. If you would honestly sat down and watched --
  • RUSH: Where is my bootleg copy? I've got a bootleg copy. I can't bring myself to watch it. It's nothing but bunch of tripe. All I have to know is this. This is all I have to know. All I have to know is that Michael Moore made blatant distortions in Bowling for Columbine, blatant distortions in Roger and Me, he opens this movie with a misrepresentation of just how sweetness and light life in Iraq was and Bush has gone in and destroyed all these millions of innocent little kite flying little people. All I have to know about Moore is that he misrepresented what Richard Clarke admitted to doing, and that is flying the bin Laden family out of Washington. It was not Bush that did it. Bush did not have a thing to do with it, Richard Clarke did. Richard Clarke admitted this, Richard Clarke said this before Moore's movie came out. Moore had a chance to change the record and didn't. I have enough evidence to know that so much is wrong in this movie that none of it is worth believing.
  • CALLER: You can't be like that. It's not a fair critique --
  • RUSH: I most certainly can be like that. I can choose to believe it based on my knowledge of Moore based on his previous work and based on this. Based on analyses of the work by people who had seen it who I trust.
  • CALLER: But, Rush, you have a huge responsibility to your audience.
  • RUSH: And I am more than fulfilling it.

Like I said, you don't need to see the movie to know it's a pack of lies. - Calmypal 11:10, Sep 10, 2004 (UTC)

Another lash for the dead horse[edit]

I don't know why the Bubba-VP question arose in your mind again, but it's nice to have agreement. I also feel this issue will come up again, now that elections seem to be increasingly in the hands of the litigators. :) -- Cecropia | Talk 16:31, 8 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Edit to Jim McGreevey[edit]

Princeton Township attorney Bruce Afran said federal District Judge Garrett Brown agreed to hold a Sept. 8 hearing on a lawsuit filed by him and another attorney, Carl Mayer, that claims McGreeveys delayed resignation violates federal voting rights laws

I assume you got permission before copying this sentence from the Star Ledger [2] to the Jim McGreevey [3] page. Right? AlistairMcMillan 15:23, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

Right, I should have provided a source for that. Sorry. Anyway, I'm sure they'll sue me into the street over one sentence. - Calmypal 15:41, Sep 13, 2004 (UTC)
Do you have a source for these radio talk show rumours of which you speak? AlistairMcMillan 15:53, 13 Sep 2004 (UTC)

From Mod to User: Eszett Talks to Calmypal[edit]

Wow, is this the same Calmypal from Mantako? I absolutely need to know. kthx, your benevolent moderator Eszett.

Yes, is this the same Eszett from Wikipedia? - Calmypal 13:36, Oct 5, 2004 (UTC)

Yes, Eszett (Wikipedia) and Eszett (mantako) are one and the same. Eszett 01:27, 7 Oct 2004 (UTC)

One more thing... Are you just a conservative from the site in disguise? We must answer the suspicion. Eszett 01:57, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Conservative in disguise? I thought the speculation was that I was a parody of right-wing thought. I am conservative. - Calmypal 02:34, Oct 27, 2004 (UTC)
I've heard some sources say that you are either jox, jox's dad, or Sean Hannity (!), but either way it is popular opinion that you are either an angry conservative venting their rage under a pseudonym, or else a complete joke. I don't believe any of it myself, but you just seem so... radically conservative. ~ Eszett 00:03, 28 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Mark Twain's Library of Humor[edit]

I left you a note in Wikisource:User talk:Calmypal, and await your reply. (I don't blame you for not reading it. I don't follow my dormant User_talk pages on the various wikis either.) I'd appreciate it if you replied - either there or in Wikipedia, whatever is more convenient. -- Itai 11:41, 10 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Come join the AIW[edit]

You are currently listed as an honorary member of the Association of Inclusionist Wikipedians, we encourage you to become a full-fledged member. Posiduck 04:31, 27 Oct 2004 (UTC)

Rafael Leonidas Trujillo[edit]

Yes, the disambig message is necessary there, as "Rafael Trujillo" redirects there. WhisperToMe 23:36, 22 Dec 2004 (UTC)

"Leftist Crap"[edit]

This is pretty close to personal attack. Deletion of talk pages because you do not like what is discussed is also quite out of order.Refdoc 00:51, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

You have now reverted three times. A fourth revert would be against the 3RR rule. Refdoc 01:07, 25 Feb 2005 (UTC)

Not so. It's been more than 24 hours. - Calmypal 01:29, Feb 25, 2005 (UTC)


Please take a gander: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Votes_for_undeletion#Universist_Movement Universist 03:57, 12 Mar 2005 (UTC)